full sync with chrome and safari
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Denis Sherstennikov
Raindrop is bookmarks' centerpoint for me. Native bookmarks are still useful, though. I'd prefer them autosynced to raindrop.
Rustem Mussabekov
Make a duplicate of my comment for newcomers:
Here few reasons why I'm not considering to implement this in the near future:
This will shift focus from product
Imagine this feature is implemented.
After some time you will slowly stop visiting our web app and using our browser extension.
Because for what? It's faster to use native "star" button and browser bookmarks panel.
In the end you will find that only real benefit Raindrop gives for you is automatic sync.
Or maybe you will find that you no more need Raindrop, because you never interact directly with it. All work happen in the background.
That's not what I want. Raindrop is more that just a bookmark manager.
But I'm afraid many of you will forget or ignore all other benefits expect automatic sync.
Do you know what happen with Xmarks? They shut-down.
Hard to implement
It's possible to implement this feature. But really hard to make absolutely reliable, without conflicts, accidental overwrites and so on.
Check out user reviews of any other existing solutions. You will see that many of users are facing syncing issues, accidental lose of data, etc.
Raindrop and your browser bookmarks can live together, side-by-side
Maybe just keep them separately?
Browser bookmarks needed for quick access to frequently visited pages. You know well what happen if you try to keep thousands of bookmarks? It becomes a mess.
That's why Raindrop is exist, it can help you organize all important stuff from the web you love and store it separately from your browser/device/ecosystem.
Maybe I'm wrong about all or part of this points. Please share your thought's
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Dave Warren
"Imagine this feature is implemented. After some time you will slowly stop visiting our web app and using our browser extension." -- Funny, that's where I am at right now
because
it doesn't synchronize.- Browser bookmarks: Where I live and work on a daily basis.
- Raindrop.io: Where I stick stuff I might want to get back to one day, or want to have available for later reference, but I don't intend on using in the near future (and possibly never).
I want my bookmarks front-and-centre, not buried a bunch of clicks away in a website that'll probably need me to log in (which means a trip over to my password manager, no wait, two trips for the TOTP). Or the Firefox extension that hasn't worked for years.
It doesn't even occur to me to log in to raindrop.io when I'm looking for a site I use hourly, daily, or even monthly, at best it's a "okay I saw this cool thing months ago, where did I stick it? Maybe I exported my unsorted mess to Raindrop.io since then, I'll look there"
And because I use raindrop so infrequently, I end up with a considerable backlog that turns into a chore, so my stuff is mostly an unorganized frustration.
What I'd like is to select one folder (and subfolder) in Raindrop.io synchronize to/from my browsers, or heck even just push to the browser (meaning I have to manage everything through Raindrop.io's interface/apps, solving your "people don't use raindrop.io" that the current implementation has already caused for me. It would be so awesome to be able to have one central place to work from, move stuff in and out of the "live bookmark" folder vs the other sections used as a repository as my interests and habits shift.
Oh and make it a paid-only feature too, that way it can't take away from your free user base AND contributes to the bottom-line.
I want to use raindrop.io, I want to like raindrop.io, but as long as it is siloed off from my daily workflow, it'll just never be part of my daily workflow.
Chuck
I just realized this isn't the case which is the only reason i subscribed to the pro feature service. I guess i get to try to manually consolidate everything back in chrome then manually reorganize and deduplicate everything especially since the app seems janky on my new phone and difficult to navigate.
Claude Deschênes
I want especially an extention that make bookmarks more easy to manage and to view, your vision about sync is really limited and I deplore it...
If the addon is a better view than browser default favorite, sure I will use it... I will also add a bookmark in my bookmark bar to made it quick and easy to use it... But I still want to have nicely organised bookmarks toolbar that I will use for quicker access. With your decision to avoid sync with browser because you're affraid to lost people, you will just lost me... I don't want to have differents bookmarks on the browser itself and an addon to manage it... It's dont make sence for me. In fact I want to replace the awful "edge://favorites/"
Raindrop seem fun to use to manage favorites ... but I will alway prefer extention that will offer full sync.
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Dan Hackley
Wow, I was going to try Raindrop but that bizarre response from Rustem who is presumably the dev has put me off. He wants to limit the functionality of his product....because "you will find that the only real benefit Raindrop gives for you is automatic sync". Talk about underselling a product.
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Travis S.
Hi, Rustem.
I want to add my voice here and say that I really need to be able to have a bookmark collection that then is auto-included in the search that happens when I use the URL bar. That's how the browser-native bookmarks work and it's one reason they're so useful.
Raindrop.io creates a lovely sync-able group collection, but it doesn't allow that collection to be part of what comes up when my staff simply types into the URL bar. The need to type "rd" is a hurdle that the non-tech folks simply aren't able to clear.
I know you're concerned that people will use Raindrop less if bookmark full sync happens, but I'm ready to buy a pro license if this functional gap (bookmarked items auto-populate the URL bar when typing) was somehow closed - however it would be done.
It could even be one-way sync -- write to the Bookmark file on changes, just so the information is in that place.
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Andrew
Opening raindrop is slow, and after it's open, it's another app to switch through when app switching. Firefox bookmarks allow me to autocomplete without leaving the browser. I suggest the ability to right click the extension/addon to search for a bookmarked site.
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Andrew
On OSX, Raindrop is too slow to open, and once it's open, it slow down my app switching. By being in Firefox, I can use autocomplete. Is there a quicker way to launch a bookmark without this syncing feeling?
George Kartsev
hi there. i thought, the application integrates in browser, reads it's bookmarks, sends it to server. then i open another browser on other pc and it connects to the cloud and it doesn't matter, what is the browser, and what is the platform, because chrome will connect to raindrop and get the latest bookmarks from there. it's a great opportunity to make research to make money from big data
DacoDev
The extension's browser search feature, https://help.raindrop.io/browser-extension#search-from-address-bar, has essentially rounded out my use-case as being fulfilled.
It's effortless to search my bookmarks and navigate to them without ever touching my mouse by typing "rd<space>" into the address bar for bookmarks I know I have or a part of the name/description.
You can also bookmark Raindrop webpages for items and collections to the local bookmarks bar. Using the extension and local bookmarks in each browser could come close to solving most people's general use case, but with some upfront effort of adding the bookmarks manually for what they want locally.
It would be a neat feature to be able to create a redirectable link in Raindrop of an item to send you straight to that webpage like: https://app.raindrop.io/my/123456/item/123456/web?redirect=true which could serve a 301 for the end webpage.
I also initially disagreed with Rustem's assertion that adding sync would cause people to not interact directly with Raindrop, but now I believe that he is at least mostly correct. Less in an "I don't want people to stop paying" since there is a free tier and people were paying for XMarks to do exactly that, but by removing the interaction between you and Raindrop's interface, you will not take advantage of the advanced features that it offers and thus suffer as you did before using Raindrop, which led to you seeking a tool like this out just as I did.
And really, using those features, I molded my usage to the features and functionality in the way I described above, rather than molding the features to my expectations.
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Tyson
Rustem Mussabekov, you're suggesting that in order to keep people using your product you have to limit its functionality. This makes absolutely no sense. Using the native "star" button is no faster than using the Raindrop extension button. Why not add full sync as a Pro feature to, oh I don't know..., ADD VALUE to your product and entice people to buy Pro? "In the end you will find that only real benefit Raindrop gives for you is automatic sync." - This statement directly contradicts the features outlined on your homepage. Clearly, you market Raindrop as much more than just a bookmark manager - most of the features REQUIRE you to visit the app - so why are you talking here as if Raindrop only serves one function? I'm very confused by your response to this request as it sounds as if you don't even know your own product. I came here looking to buy Pro if it would perform 2-way sync with my browser's bookmarks. Now I don't know what to think.
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